Full Version: The Official Battlesphere(tm) Thread
| QUOTE (Strong Bad @ Feb 5 2006, 12:34 PM) |
| 125. Box and cart in good shape w/ no manual. |
Amazing price, congratulations!
| QUOTE (Strong Bad @ Feb 5 2006, 12:34 PM) |
| 125. Box and cart in good shape w/ no manual. |
Wow, I am impressed as to how little you paid for it. I haven't even had the pleasure of ever playing this game, although I would like to one of these days.
| QUOTE (T2KFreeker @ Feb 5 2006, 08:06 PM) | ||
Wow, I am impressed as to how little you paid for it. I haven't even had the pleasure of ever playing this game, although I would like to one of these days. |
It's worth getting to play T2K. I'm looking forward to trying it out again at the next get together in Utah.
| QUOTE (T2KFreeker @ Feb 5 2006, 11:06 PM) | ||
Wow, I am impressed as to how little you paid for it. I haven't even had the pleasure of ever playing this game, although I would like to one of these days. |
You have not played it?!
You are in for a treat when you finally do! Try to get to a classic gaming fest in which he Jag will be present, it should be there. 
| QUOTE (JaguarGod @ Feb 5 2006, 08:57 PM) | ||||
You have not played it?! You are in for a treat when you finally do! Try to get to a classic gaming fest in which he Jag will be present, it should be there. |
I too have never ever played BS or BSG or seen a cart of it in the flesh the only gameplay Ive ever seen is your rocking video clip JG!!!!
| QUOTE (Phineasfool @ Feb 5 2006, 11:48 AM) | ||||
Well I did finally get to play it at a get together in Utah a short while ago. So at least that part of it is taken care of. Maybe one of the people that have several copies will eventually sell one so that I can get it. |
BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
(Just kidding around PF!
)"C"
No worries guys, that's the next game I'm going to be selling underground!
Kidding of course....
Kidding of course....
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 6 2006, 09:11 AM) |
| No worries guys, that's the next game I'm going to be selling underground! Kidding of course.... |
You know Jay, you suck sometimes, man!
You know what, money talks. I’d personally be willing to front the costs of doing another run.
Let me know.
Michael
Let me know.
Michael
| QUOTE (Minux @ Feb 13 2006, 02:55 PM) |
| You know what, money talks. I’d personally be willing to front the costs of doing another run. Let me know. Michael |
You want to be the PR guy too? You want to keep track of all the orders recieved and sent out? You want to be the one to make sure everyone gets their copy they ordered. Whether they really ordered it or imagined it?
That's probably what it would take for Scatologic to even CONSIDER as a small flicker in the back of their mind to make another run. Basically someone to put up with all the crap from the Trolls for them. But that's just my guess. You'd have to actually ask them.
Never mind me. I'm a Horse's ass.
I understand what you’re saying, Chris. I don’t think the BS guys realize that they’re going to get crap either way. If they made some more carts, at least they’d be helping out some people.
I believe it’s more of a question concerning morals than it is one of aptitude and quality standards.
My offer was made, because I'm sick of hearing people complain about not receiving a copy. Personally, I believe that if someone has the money to purchase something, then they should be allowed to purchase it.
I am an adamant believer that people should have access to everything. If someone is going to sit there and complain about ROMs, then the material in question should be available for purchase.
To me, it seems counterintuitive to talk about releasing unreleased games, while at the same time, the staple game of the Jaguar is not available for purchase, because the developer has too high of production standards.
Michael
I believe it’s more of a question concerning morals than it is one of aptitude and quality standards.
My offer was made, because I'm sick of hearing people complain about not receiving a copy. Personally, I believe that if someone has the money to purchase something, then they should be allowed to purchase it.
I am an adamant believer that people should have access to everything. If someone is going to sit there and complain about ROMs, then the material in question should be available for purchase.
To me, it seems counterintuitive to talk about releasing unreleased games, while at the same time, the staple game of the Jaguar is not available for purchase, because the developer has too high of production standards.
Michael
I'd love to see the Scatologic guys do another run, as long as it is "different" than the other 2 in some way. I appreciate the collectibility of their items. As I've said before I won't ever sell my copies so I don't much care from a retail value, but I do cherish certain collectibles. This game is just something special on the Jaguar...
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 13 2006, 04:53 PM) |
| I'd love to see the Scatologic guys do another run, as long as it is "different" than the other 2 in some way. I appreciate the collectibility of their items. As I've said before I won't ever sell my copies so I don't much care from a retail value, but I do cherish certain collectibles. This game is just something special on the Jaguar... |
Agreed... that would make a perfect reason to release a Platinum version of BS! It would allow alot of 'gamers' to get a copy to play.
Now the real question to pose is... how do you stop scalpers from ordering 20 copies to sit on and then sell for $500 a pop at a later date? I suppose you could limit purchases.
If I can be of help in any way I would certainly like to volunteer my help to such a release! (Perhaps we could do an ebay benefit where we sell 90% of the games and then Ebay the remaining 10% with proceeds going to a worthy charity?!)
The obvious answer would be to make enough of them to fulfill demand. The main reason why BS is demanding such high prices is due to people believing that there will never be another run.
Michael
Michael
| QUOTE (Minux @ Feb 13 2006, 06:39 PM) |
| The obvious answer would be to make enough of them to fulfill demand. The main reason why BS is demanding such high prices is due to people believing that there will never be another run. Michael |
Fair enough... a production run of a set amount would be needed with more available at a later date. We could conduct polls to see how much interest there would be in this. (I don't doubt it would be an amazing amount of interest!)
It would be the time between batches that would have to be carefully coordinated as that would start a whole mess of complaints and flamewars. I think most people would be patient though so this isn't a huge issue. These people are currently patiently waiting (or refusing to pay $$$) for a copy.
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 13 2006, 04:53 PM) |
| I'd love to see the Scatologic guys do another run, as long as it is "different" than the other 2 in some way. I appreciate the collectibility of their items. As I've said before I won't ever sell my copies so I don't much care from a retail value, but I do cherish certain collectibles. This game is just something special on the Jaguar... |
Thanks Jay. I appreciate these comments after hearing how much the game sucks all the time...
| QUOTE (Minux @ Feb 13 2006, 06:39 PM) |
| The obvious answer would be to make enough of them to fulfill demand. The main reason why BS is demanding such high prices is due to people believing that there will never be another run. Michael |
This is not correct. BSG was selling for all kinds of money at the same time it was offered on our website and people could order it.
The problem was that people were auctioning it off and claiming it was so rare and you couldn't get it anywhere. People never bothered to check our website and see they could get it for list price, and they got ripped off.
Hold on a second, friend, didn’t BSG sell out within the first few days? I seem to recall you saying that BSG was limited to a set number of copies.
Michael
Michael
| QUOTE (Gusbucket13 @ Feb 6 2006, 03:25 AM) | ||||||
I too have never ever played BS or BSG or seen a cart of it in the flesh the only gameplay Ive ever seen is your rocking video clip JG!!!! |
Thanks a lot man! It was fun to make and it was even better when ThunderBird said he actually liked it! I am glad that some get to see some gameplay they might not have been able to see.
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 13 2006, 06:55 PM) | ||
Thanks Jay. I appreciate these comments after hearing how much the game sucks all the time... |
You betcha!
BS and BSG are great products so is the Scatbox and Scatbox Deluxe. I can appreciate quality like that!
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 13 2006, 06:58 PM) | ||
This is not correct. BSG was selling for all kinds of money at the same time it was offered on our website and people could order it. The problem was that people were auctioning it off and claiming it was so rare and you couldn't get it anywhere. People never bothered to check our website and see they could get it for list price, and they got ripped off. |
I remember seeing auctions of BS and BSG right after you put them up for sale and they were already selling for over retail. It was a mess....
I’ll play the devil’s advocate here, since I usually discuss less favorable positions.
The thing that nobody has mentioned is the fact that the BS guys had a very shoddy ordering system, where one had to email them, receive a confirmation from them, then send in their money. I know for a fact that not all emails were answered, as I was one of the people that were denied the right to purchase BSG. Again, I’m not blaming anyone, but the ordering process was not optimal.
Taking the shoddy ordering system into account and the fact that it sold out very quickly, it’s no surprise that ebay sales popped up immediately, with people getting higher than retail prices.
A principle concept of economics is the supply and demand curve. The fact remains that prices of items are set by demand. If there were too many BSG carts to go around, then the price wouldn’t be where it’s at.
A Casablanca Deluxe Natural sounds good right about now.
Michael
The thing that nobody has mentioned is the fact that the BS guys had a very shoddy ordering system, where one had to email them, receive a confirmation from them, then send in their money. I know for a fact that not all emails were answered, as I was one of the people that were denied the right to purchase BSG. Again, I’m not blaming anyone, but the ordering process was not optimal.
Taking the shoddy ordering system into account and the fact that it sold out very quickly, it’s no surprise that ebay sales popped up immediately, with people getting higher than retail prices.
A principle concept of economics is the supply and demand curve. The fact remains that prices of items are set by demand. If there were too many BSG carts to go around, then the price wouldn’t be where it’s at.
A Casablanca Deluxe Natural sounds good right about now.
Michael
I know... a JS2 Elite Release! Damn... better work on my posting! Time for some reviews too! LOL!
T-Bird... if I ever get ahold of this game (either version) I would be more than willing to give an honest review of it. I won't hold back either... but the one problem I can see is the amount of depth in the game would stop me from giving a true review as I would be busy for ages! (Maybe that's why it sucks? j/k )
In order to avoid people selling them would be to get as much news in the web about it's re-release that would stop people from jumping at an ebay'd copy. Does ebay prevent listings that mention future releases in the listing? It could be a little advertising that you could add to a listing of a Jaguar game that you have on Ebay? (Jay a good way to sell some of the 200 FFL's you have! )
Just some thoughts..
T-Bird... if I ever get ahold of this game (either version) I would be more than willing to give an honest review of it. I won't hold back either... but the one problem I can see is the amount of depth in the game would stop me from giving a true review as I would be busy for ages! (Maybe that's why it sucks? j/k )
In order to avoid people selling them would be to get as much news in the web about it's re-release that would stop people from jumping at an ebay'd copy. Does ebay prevent listings that mention future releases in the listing? It could be a little advertising that you could add to a listing of a Jaguar game that you have on Ebay? (Jay a good way to sell some of the 200 FFL's you have!
)Just some thoughts..
Personally, rather than a re-release of BS for Jaguar, I'd prefer to see an updated port to another console, or better yet, PC. 
I always thought that it was a great game, and there really hasn't been anything quite like it on other systems.
Just MHO...
I always thought that it was a great game, and there really hasn't been anything quite like it on other systems.Just MHO...
| QUOTE (LS650 @ Feb 15 2006, 12:15 PM) |
| Personally, rather than a re-release of BS for Jaguar, I'd prefer to see an updated port to another console, or better yet, PC. I always thought that it was a great game, and there really hasn't been anything quite like it on other systems. Just MHO... |
There;s only so much time in the day, so we have to pick our battles carefully. Y'know?
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 15 2006, 12:52 PM) | ||
There;s only so much time in the day, so we have to pick our battles carefully. Y'know? |
There was a lot of talk from Oppressor about an Xbox 2 (360) release.
That would be the SHIT!
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 15 2006, 05:07 PM) | ||||
There was a lot of talk from Oppressor about an Xbox 2 (360) release. That would be the SHIT! |
Agreed! Either way, it seems this game would cost me $500! I'd buy a 360 and this game (About $500) or I would fish one out on Ebay for about the same.
I'd go with the 360 one for a couple reasons:
1 - A 360 version would look even more amazing and would likely be a bigger and better game!
2 - My purchase of BS360 would support the creators and not some guy on Ebay.
3 - I would really like to get a 360 anyways! LOL!
When was all this talk about an Xbox 360 release? Last I heard they were working on a version for the PC. 
| QUOTE (JagChris @ Feb 15 2006, 08:13 PM) |
| When was all this talk about an Xbox 360 release? Last I heard they were working on a version for the PC. |
Is it me or has PC gaming really taken a kick in the teeth lately? Yes there are some great games but it seems that EB and Wal-Mart are shrinking the shelf space they allot to PC Games... the number of really good PC games have been dwindling.
Perhaps this would be a good reason to port BS to something other than the PC as it is likely to receive more exposure. Console gaming is very mainstream right now and mainstream means $$$ to publishers. Just a thought.
| QUOTE (king_salamon @ Feb 15 2006, 10:17 PM) | ||
Is it me or has PC gaming really taken a kick in the teeth lately? Yes there are some great games but it seems that EB and Wal-Mart are shrinking the shelf space they allot to PC Games... the number of really good PC games have been dwindling. Perhaps this would be a good reason to port BS to something other than the PC as it is likely to receive more exposure. Console gaming is very mainstream right now and mainstream means $$$ to publishers. Just a thought. |
When you compare PC sales with console sales the numbers are always lower. I think the problem is that the PC seems too complex for the mainstream gaming market, which pushes sales when it comes to game consoles. When your average joe buys a game console all they need to know is that it has some cool games they want and that they might look prettier than Console A or B. When you buy a PC you need to double check the minimum specifications, upgrade your PC if they don't fit, learn all the terminology to understand how you should know what to buy, etc. In the end, consoles are less of a headache for someone that just wants to play games. I think that's why the PC Game centers aren't as appealing as they could be, due to the complexity behind them compared to playing Solitaire. That's also something Nintendo has been talking about lately as well...
| QUOTE (Shaggy @ Feb 15 2006, 09:31 PM) | ||||
When you compare PC sales with console sales the numbers are always lower. I think the problem is that the PC seems too complex for the mainstream gaming market, which pushes sales when it comes to game consoles. When your average joe buys a game console all they need to know is that it has some cool games they want and that they might look prettier than Console A or B. When you buy a PC you need to double check the minimum specifications, upgrade your PC if they don't fit, learn all the terminology to understand how you should know what to buy, etc. In the end, consoles are less of a headache for someone that just wants to play games. I think that's why the PC Game centers aren't as appealing as they could be, due to the complexity behind them compared to playing Solitaire. That's also something Nintendo has been talking about lately as well... |
Yeah, Nintendo has been talking about simplifying games again. This is one of the reasons I'm interested in the Rev. It used to be I had lots of time to dedicate to games so I didn't care so much. I also used to have a better attention span. Now I generally want something I don't have to spend a full day just learning how to play it properly.
| QUOTE (Phineasfool @ Feb 15 2006, 10:33 PM) | ||||||
Yeah, Nintendo has been talking about simplifying games again. This is one of the reasons I'm interested in the Rev. It used to be I had lots of time to dedicate to games so I didn't care so much. I also used to have a better attention span. Now I generally want something I don't have to spend a full day just learning how to play it properly. |
I agree, I am also interested in the Revolution for some of those reasons. People ask me all the time if I play this MMO or that online game and I always say that I never have time to waste on those kind of games. Back when I was a teenager with no job or responsibilities it was one thing, but now life is different. That's one reason I play my older games more often than my newer ones. Not only that but a lot of new games have less replay value than the classics and I hate spending $50 on something I finish is a couple of days that doesn't entice me to play it again.
Not all new games are like that of course, I will be picking up Oblivion next month and I'm sure I'll enjoy that game for a long time to come. But I will get more than my $60 worth out of it. I paid $200 for my CC2 and it's a gem, probably the best gaming investment I ever made, next to my Jaguar of course.
Yeah, that CC2 was pretty sweet. I'll be picking up Oblivion also as I decided it is the game I will make the exception for and dedicate some time to it.
| QUOTE (Phineasfool @ Feb 15 2006, 11:33 PM) | ||||||
Yeah, Nintendo has been talking about simplifying games again. This is one of the reasons I'm interested in the Rev. It used to be I had lots of time to dedicate to games so I didn't care so much. I also used to have a better attention span. Now I generally want something I don't have to spend a full day just learning how to play it properly. |
Same reason I think a lot of people are interested in the Revolution. Nintendo really seems to be trying a new angle. Well, just the angle they have always tried, good games and nothing but good games. They are a videogame company and I really don't think they are interested in being the "be all end all" home entertainment system. Just worried about games. Heres to hoping!
Well that strategy has seemed to work with the DS so far. Let's hope it can carry into the console market.
A lot of similarities can be made between consoles and PCs now, and twenty years back. It seems that PCs have historically kept consoles in check, in terms of what abilities they were to poses.
I am an adamant believer that both Sony and MSOFT will not release another gaming console. Instead, their next iteration will be a further extension of the digital hub that we keep hearing so much about. Instead of a departure from the console market, they’ll call it an evolution.
I think Nintendo has looked at the historical trends and concluded the very same thing I’ve posted here. Years ago, the gaming only philosophy helped Nintendo put Atari to sleep, so it would be stupid for them to think otherwise now. Nintendo will let Sony and MSOFT have their day in the sun, because they know in a short few years, the pie is going to be all theirs.
Michael
I am an adamant believer that both Sony and MSOFT will not release another gaming console. Instead, their next iteration will be a further extension of the digital hub that we keep hearing so much about. Instead of a departure from the console market, they’ll call it an evolution.
I think Nintendo has looked at the historical trends and concluded the very same thing I’ve posted here. Years ago, the gaming only philosophy helped Nintendo put Atari to sleep, so it would be stupid for them to think otherwise now. Nintendo will let Sony and MSOFT have their day in the sun, because they know in a short few years, the pie is going to be all theirs.
Michael
| QUOTE (Minux @ Feb 15 2006, 11:52 PM) |
| I think Nintendo has looked at the historical trends and concluded the very same thing I’ve posted here. Years ago, the gaming only philosophy helped Nintendo put Atari to sleep, so it would be stupid for them to think otherwise now. Nintendo will let Sony and MSOFT have their day in the sun, because they know in a short few years, the pie is going to be all theirs. Michael |
I definitely don't think you're far off. Good observation! Nintendo is worried about being a gaming system while everyone else is worried about being a digital hub. Interesting to see where this leads with the Revolution.
| QUOTE (JaguarGod @ Feb 15 2006, 10:56 PM) | ||
I definitely don't think you're far off. Good observation! Nintendo is worried about being a gaming system while everyone else is worried about being a digital hub. Interesting to see where this leads with the Revolution. |
Well, I'm one consuer that's not really looking for a digital hub. That's what I have a PC for anyways. When it comes to a game console, I want a game console.
| QUOTE (JagChris @ Feb 15 2006, 08:13 PM) |
| When was all this talk about an Xbox 360 release? Last I heard they were working on a version for the PC. |
"All this talk" is an exaggeration. Probably because Oppressor doesn't say much here that 2 or 3 messages in a week constitutes "a lot" of talk from him!
LOL
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 16 2006, 06:06 AM) | ||
"All this talk" is an exaggeration. Probably because Oppressor doesn't say much here that 2 or 3 messages in a week constitutes "a lot" of talk from him! LOL |
So when can we expect it?
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 16 2006, 03:22 PM) | ||||
So when can we expect it? |
When can we pre-order?
| QUOTE (JagMod @ Feb 16 2006, 07:33 AM) | ||||||
When can we pre-order? |
I'm going to ebay auction off coupons that will allow you the potential ability to pre-order. I'll limit it to 10.
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 16 2006, 10:27 AM) | ||||||||
I'm going to ebay auction off coupons that will allow you the potential ability to pre-order. I'll limit it to 10. |
Sweet, I bid 100 bars of gold pressed latinum.
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 16 2006, 09:27 AM) | ||||||||
I'm going to ebay auction off coupons that will allow you the potential ability to pre-order. I'll limit it to 10. |
Classic!
| QUOTE (Jaysmith2000 @ Feb 16 2006, 10:05 AM) | ||||||||||
Classic! |
Ultra Mega Rare Coupon!
If the BS guys don’t have enough time to produce carts of BS, then how would they find time to port it?
Michael
Michael
Will the winning ticket be a gold ticket found in a candy wrapper just like Willy Wonka's gold ticket?! LOL!
I could only imagine the madness that would ensue if such a lottery auction happened!
I could only imagine the madness that would ensue if such a lottery auction happened!
| QUOTE (Minux @ Feb 16 2006, 04:33 PM) |
| If the BS guys don’t have enough time to produce carts of BS, then how would they find time to port it? Michael |
Maybe because we only have time to do one thing and not two?
Or does that make too much sense?
| QUOTE (Thunderbird @ Feb 16 2006, 08:08 PM) | ||
Maybe because we only have time to do one thing and not two? Or does that make too much sense? |
Makes sense to me.
| QUOTE (Phineasfool @ Feb 16 2006, 07:10 PM) | ||||
Makes sense to me. |
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