Setting up my Alpine system properly, How do I make the Alpine work with my PC?? Options

[atari_fan]

I am now trying to get my Jag Dev - Alpine system up and running. I´d like to use an older Pentium II 266 MHz PC with Windows 98SE. I have heard that it can somehow be difficult to get the Alpine system set up properly.

Who knows which BIOS settings for the parallel port of my PC is the one I need?

My BIOS offers a couple of options and I don´t know which one I should chose. I have Standard (which does not work as it´s uni-directional), Bi-directional, ECP and EPP.

Using Bi-directional (following Atari´s requirement as per Alpine setup instructions) get´s me further and when starting WDB it will find the Alpine properly, as you can see in this screenshot:



Loading a file into the Alpine RAM seems to work fine at the beginning of the uploading process:



After a short while during the upload an error message appears, see the error line with white background:



When I hit the reset button on my Alpine the following error message apears (with white background):



Is anyone here who has already seen these kind of error messages and knows what´s wrong with my setup?

Thanks, guys.

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[belboz]

try using the pprot setting from inside wdb.

do something like

pprot = 1

then try your load of painter

If it still fails try

pprot = 2

and try again

keep incrementing pprot by 1 each time until it works

Once you find a reliable pprot setting add the pprot = WHATEVER # WORKS into your rdb.ini file in you \jaguar\bin directory. This will set pprot to that value everytime you use rdbjag and wdb

This post has been edited by belboz: Dec 7 2006, 08:09 AM

[atari_fan]

try using the pprot setting from inside wdb.

do something like

pprot = 1

then try your load of painter

If it still fails try

pprot = 2

and try again

keep incrementing pprot by 1 each time until it works

Once you find a reliable pprot setting add the pprot = WHATEVER # WORKS into your rdb.ini file in you \jaguar\bin directory. This will set pprot to that value everytime you use rdbjag and wdb

Thank you very much, I will try these settings.

What is the "pprot" setting good for, i.e. what does it do to WDB?

[belboz]

It is basically a "speed" setting for how fast to try communicating with the Alpine.

I am not around my dev system or manuals now, but I believe the higher the number the slower it sends data.

If you have a dev manual, you can look up more detail on it.

[Alex Czarnowski]

It is basically a "speed" setting for how fast to try communicating with the Alpine.

I am not around my dev system or manuals now, but I believe the higher the number the slower it sends data.

If you have a dev manual, you can look up more detail on it.

This is a delay control I belive - Belboz is right there is around half page about it in dev manual but you have to look for it hard. I've skipped it few times until Starcat pointed out this option when I had problems with my dev system.

[atari_fan]

It is basically a "speed" setting for how fast to try communicating with the Alpine.

I am not around my dev system or manuals now, but I believe the higher the number the slower it sends data.

If you have a dev manual, you can look up more detail on it.

BINGO (as we say here), I have got my Alpine working properly!!

Your suggestions with respect to the pprot function were exactly right

I came to the conclusuion that pprot = 4 works fine and I was able to upload a couple of demos (e.g. ces_demo and jagmand) and get them up and running on my Devjag. I could also upload Painter without error messages, but it won´t run yet - need to do some research on that.

You said that the determinded value should be added into my rdb.ini file. I don´t have such a file, but I do have a file called "rdb.rc" which I could open with a text editor. The last line of this file was set to "pprot = 0" and I edited it to "pprot = 4" which works fine after restarting WDB.

Is "rdb.rc" the file your were talking about, or do I have to have a "rdb.ini" files as well?

This is a delay control I belive - Belboz is right there is around half page about it in dev manual but you have to look for it hard. I've skipped it few times until Starcat pointed out this option when I had problems with my dev system.

Well, I am not aware of that page and I think I have searched all of my printed pages of the dev manual. It might be in there and I may have overseen it, but chances are that my manual might not be complete.

Can you possibly point me to that page you are talking about, please?

It would help me to check if my manual is somehow complete....

This post has been edited by atari_fan: Dec 8 2006, 12:16 AM

[belboz]

You are correct. rdb.rc

Sorry. my mistake. To use to ini files on other platforms.

[atari_fan]

I could also upload Painter without error messages, but it won´t run yet - need to do some research on that.

In the meantime I was also able to run an uploaded Painter.

While it won´t start on my DevJag when booted from scratch with button B pushed, it will start from inside WDB using the "go" command right after uploading it. Don´t know why it won´t start when using the Alpine as cartridge subsitution, as the other demos I uploaded worked also with the "button B method".

Can it be that the reason is that Painter.cof has a start address at $10000, while the other demos load to $802000?? Sounds somehow logical but I don´t know for sure if that´s really the reason.

Does anyone else know?

[Alex Czarnowski]

It is basically a "speed" setting for how fast to try communicating with the Alpine.

I am not around my dev system or manuals now, but I believe the higher the number the slower it sends data.

If you have a dev manual, you can look up more detail on it.

BINGO (as we say here), I have got my Alpine working properly!!

Your suggestions with respect to the pprot function were exactly right

I came to the conclusuion that pprot = 4 works fine and I was able to upload a couple of demos (e.g. ces_demo and jagmand) and get them up and running on my Devjag. I could also upload Painter without error messages, but it won´t run yet - need to do some research on that.

You said that the determinded value should be added into my rdb.ini file. I don´t have such a file, but I do have a file called "rdb.rc" which I could open with a text editor. The last line of this file was set to "pprot = 0" and I edited it to "pprot = 4" which works fine after restarting WDB.

Is "rdb.rc" the file your were talking about, or do I have to have a "rdb.ini" files as well?

This is a delay control I belive - Belboz is right there is around half page about it in dev manual but you have to look for it hard. I've skipped it few times until Starcat pointed out this option when I had problems with my dev system.

Well, I am not aware of that page and I think I have searched all of my printed pages of the dev manual. It might be in there and I may have overseen it, but chances are that my manual might not be complete.

Can you possibly point me to that page you are talking about, please?

It would help me to check if my manual is somehow complete....

Page 40 of DB The Atari Debugger document from dev manual.

[atari_fan]

Can you possibly point me to that page you are talking about, please?

It would help me to check if my manual is somehow complete....

Page 40 of DB The Atari Debugger document from dev manual.

Thanks Alex, I´ll look that page up - if I have it.

[Alex Czarnowski]

Can you possibly point me to that page you are talking about, please?

It would help me to check if my manual is somehow complete....

Page 40 of DB The Atari Debugger document from dev manual.

Thanks Alex, I´ll look that page up - if I have it.

You're welcome - I'd miss it too when first time I was reading docs.

[atari_fan]

Can you possibly point me to that page you are talking about, please?

It would help me to check if my manual is somehow complete....

Page 40 of DB The Atari Debugger document from dev manual.

Thanks Alex, I´ll look that page up - if I have it.

You're welcome - I'd miss it too when first time I was reading docs.

Hi, I have a Debugger manual, dated 93/11/15. It is organized in chapters, the page numbers have the following format 1-1, 1-2, etc. 2-1, etc. 3-1 etc. None of the chapters has 40 or more pages. Are you referring to page 40 of the total of 84 pages? For me it is page 4-21 but it is talking about "global", "local" and "goto". I also did a search for "pprot" or "prot" in Acrobat, but this word does not seem to exist in the whole DB document.



This post has been edited by atari_fan: Dec 13 2006, 02:10 AM

[MegaData]

I'd like more information on this too since I have a November 1994 manual and don't see it in there.

[Alex Czarnowski]

I'd like more information on this too since I have a November 1994 manual and don't see it in there.

Let me get back to you with this info tomorrow as I am away from my copy of dev manual.

[atari_fan]

I'd like more information on this too since I have a November 1994 manual and don't see it in there.

Let me get back to you with this info tomorrow as I am away from my copy of dev manual.

Great, thank you.